Online Now 3829

Wells Hall Off Topic Board

This is your pulpit to preach to the masses about everything from politics to religion

On this Board 238
Record: 3425 (1/27/2013)

Online now 3819
Record: 10351 (3/11/2012)

Boards ▾

MSU Red Cedar Message Board

The largest and most active MSU Spartans board on the web

The Press Box

The place to ask questions to SpartanTailgate's recruiting experts

Duffy Daugherty Forum

"The Duff" is dedicated to Michigan State football recruiting discussion

Jack Breslin Forum

"The Bres" is dedicated to Michigan State basketball recruiting discussion

Wells Hall Off Topic Board

This is your pulpit to preach to the masses about everything from politics to religion

Marketplace & Ticket Exchange

The place to buy, trade or sell Michigan State tickets

Fantasy Sports Forum

For fantasy football and other fantasy sports discussion

Test/Feedback Forum

Reply

How many assault weapons do you need before you feel safe?

  • So apparently this shooter obtained all four assault weapons used last night legally. My question: How many assault weapons do you need before you feel that you've protected yourself and your family from the dangers you're likely to face??

    Newt was just on with Wolfe Blitzer, and his solution is "Let's deal with this individual in a swift and harsh way, so that others don't do what he did. Let's work with the laws we have now....George Washington passed a law requiring every man to own a gun...." (paraphrasing)

    Oh really Newt?!?! A few problems with Newt's position:

    1. To deal with this shooter in an individual way is fine, BUT IT'S AFTER THE FACT. AFTER HE HAS ALREADY KILLED 12+ and wounded 75+. Don't we have an obligation to be more pro-active about this issue?? Newt's solution would be to deal with drunk drivers AFTER they've already killed someone?
    2. Exactly how do you go about this "swift and harsh" thing?? Would Newt like to bypass due process?? Should we violate his constitutional rights to bring him to a harsh form of justice?? Take away his right to appeal? Change the laws on the book just to make an example out of him??
    3. George Washington never saw an assault weapon in his life! Maybe Repubs need to get with the times.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by VladtImpaler20535 on 7/20/2012 at 6:39 PM

    VladtImpaler20535

  • You dont do anything to the other 99.99999 percent of people because of this asswipe.
    You don't cut of the penis of every guy because 1 guy in a thousand is going to commit rape with it either. Society blows, starts from snotty kids that have lazy parents and on up the food chain

    Mudjin harbor

  • Wells

    signature image signature image signature image

    ---"I-Z-Z-O!--- ---E tan e epi tas--- ---"It's not over and it will never be over here."---

    reSpectGW

  • Safe from what? Zombie apocalypse after the cyber breakdown for power, water supplies and so on - if I was retired and on a 160 acre farm in S Dakota I would want several and lots of ammo.

    Otherwise, a tactical shotgun and a few decent nines and/or .45acp semi autos like HKs are enough for me. I don't have "assault weps" but I don't have a problem if someone else has one.

    This post was edited by FIJI239 81 on 7/20/2012 at 6:00 PM

    FIJI239 81

  • Dude, Obama/Eric Holder sold weapons to Mexican drug cartels...on purpose. Cops were killed with the guns.

    Where is your outrage? Or do you only want to talk about retired Republican lawmakers, rather than sitting Democrat presidents?

    Rodeo Burger

  • Please proceed directly to Wells. Do not pass go, do not collect $200.

    This post was edited by TravisotCosmos on 7/20/2012 at 6:02 PM

    TravisotCosmos ●

  • enough to protect yourself from the wackos in Wells.

    y2kMgrad

  • Vlad-t-Impaler said...

    So apparently this shooter obtained all four assault weapons used last night legally. My question: How many assault weapons do you need before you feel that you've protected yourself and your family from the dangers you're likely to face??

    Newt was just on with Wolfe Blitzer, and his solution is "Let's deal with this individual in a swift and harsh way, so that others don't do what he did. Let's work with the laws we have now....George Washington passed a law required every man to own a gun...." (paraphrasing)

    Oh really Newt?!?! A few problems with Newt's position:

    1. To deal with this shooter in a individual way is fine, BUT IT'S AFTER THE FACT. AFTER HE HAS ALREADY KILLED 12+ and wounded 75+. Don't we have an obligation to be more pro-active about this issue?? Newt's solution would be to deal with drunk drivers AFTER they've already killed someone? 2. Exactly how do you go about this "swift and harsh" thing?? Would Newt like to bypass due process?? Should we violate his constitutional rights to bring him to a harsh form of justice?? Take away his right to appeal? Change the laws on the book just to make an example out of him?? 3. George Washington never saw an assault weapon in his life! Maybe Repubs need to get with the times.


    While it's true that many people with guns are embarrassingly fearful of the possibility that a black man is going to crawl through their window and have his way with their pooper, the other half of the people with assault weapons in this country are arming themselves for the coming war with the United Nations. Please get with the program. There's freedom takers abroad!

    "Look at this. An entire generation of Cinderellas, and there's no glass slipper coming." -- Mother in ALMOST FAMOUS

    GreenMeany

  • I don't own a gun, and I don't feel the need to at any point. I don't hunt, and I don't live in a bad neighborhood, so it just seems like more of a liability than anything. It also seems like a really unnecessary expense. I guess I just don't live my life in fear of being attacked.

    signature image

    tRCMB's resident Wayne State Warrior and Sam's Club Spartan fan.

    fishrose ●

  • Just because it's in the Constitution doesn't make it sensible.

    Oh, and Wells immediately.

    Lunchables ●

  • Get this shit off tRCMB. There is a whole different forum for your rantings and ravings.

    This post was edited by chairman meow on 7/20/2012 at 6:09 PM

    chairman meow ●

  • lol Great thread

    SD Spartan ●

  • fishrose said...

    I don't own a gun, and I don't feel the need to at any point. I don't hunt, and I don't live in a bad neighborhood, so it just seems like more of a liability than anything. It also seems like a really unnecessary expense. I guess I just don't live my life in fear of being attacked.

    Assault weapon means that it has full auto capability. Is this what the shooter had or did he have a semi auto copy of an assault weapon? The only thing that makes the "copy" weapon different from some hunting guns is a high round count magazine. I highly doubt he had a true assault weapon, as they are class III firearms and are very hard and expensive to obtain.

    Edit: I didn't mean to quote you fishrose.

    This post was edited by JJ The Spartan on 7/20/2012 at 6:12 PM

    JJ The Spartan

  • Vlad-t-Impaler said...

    So apparently this shooter obtained all four assault weapons used last night legally. My question: How many assault weapons do you need before you feel that you've protected yourself and your family from the dangers you're likely to face??

    Newt was just on with Wolfe Blitzer, and his solution is "Let's deal with this individual in a swift and harsh way, so that others don't do what he did. Let's work with the laws we have now....George Washington passed a law required every man to own a gun...." (paraphrasing)

    Oh really Newt?!?! A few problems with Newt's position:

    1. To deal with this shooter in a individual way is fine, BUT IT'S AFTER THE FACT. AFTER HE HAS ALREADY KILLED 12+ and wounded 75+. Don't we have an obligation to be more pro-active about this issue?? Newt's solution would be to deal with drunk drivers AFTER they've already killed someone? 2. Exactly how do you go about this "swift and harsh" thing?? Would Newt like to bypass due process?? Should we violate his constitutional rights to bring him to a harsh form of justice?? Take away his right to appeal? Change the laws on the book just to make an example out of him?? 3. George Washington never saw an assault weapon in his life! Maybe Repubs need to get with the times.

    How does one deal with this fictional version and how different from reality.

    The report I read stated the shooter had an AR15, two Glock .40s and a Remington 870 shotgun. Not one of those is an "assault weapon". This is a Aurora shooting thread right?

    Green Note

  • This post was edited by Turtleneck on 7/20/2012 at 6:25 PM

    attachmentattachment
    signature image

    Turtleneck ●

  • Rodeo Burger said...

    Dude, Obama/Eric Holder sold weapons to Mexican drug cartels...on purpose. Cops were killed with the guns.

    Where is your outrage? Or do you only want to talk about retired Republican lawmakers, rather than sitting Democrat presidents?

    But Obama believes a couple cops are just collateral damage. Hundreds of Mexicans were killed or wounded. That was Obama's real prize. Remember, he is doing more than any other President to keep the border closed. I bet Obama has killed more Mexicans than during the Mexican war (and the killing is still ongoing).

    This post was edited by Green Note on 7/20/2012 at 6:16 PM

    Green Note

  • This post was edited by Turtleneck on 7/20/2012 at 6:18 PM

    attachmentattachmentattachment
    signature image

    Turtleneck ●

  • Enough to piss off the ignorant people who think guns should be outlawed.

    signature image signature image

    DMBSparty ●

  • Green Note said...

    How does one deal with this fictional version and how different from reality.

    The report I read stated the shooter had an AR15, two Glock .40s and a Remington 870 shotgun. Not one of those is an "assault weapon". This is a Aurora shooting thread right?

    I get so fucking turned on when I read the names of guns, don't you? Can you list the names of guns you own? Slowly...

    Cym Jim ●

  • has anyone obtained an FFL?

    Green Note

  • Green Note said...

    has anyone obtained an FFL?

    Oh yeah, keep going...

    Cym Jim ●

  • Rodeo Burger said...

    Dude, Obama/Eric Holder sold weapons to Mexican drug cartels...on purpose. Cops were killed with the guns.

    Where is your outrage? Or do you only want to talk about retired Republican lawmakers, rather than sitting Democrat presidents?

    Dude you know that that whole scheme was designed by the previous Bush Administration right? Just wanted to point out that retired Republican presidents are also to blame.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/06/21/what-is-operation-fast-and-furious-11-questions-answers.html

    "I don't want to be Mr. March, I want to be Mr. Program"-Tom Izzo

    bk1808

  • Rodeo Burger said...

    Dude, Obama/Eric Holder sold weapons to Mexican drug cartels...on purpose. Cops were killed with the guns.

    Where is your outrage? Or do you only want to talk about retired Republican lawmakers, rather than sitting Democrat presidents?

    No they didn't.... The larger problem was actually that anyone in AZ (provided you can pass a background check) can purchase as many guns (any type) as they want. There is no law saying that you can't purchase 100 AR 15s at once. I actually own one myself. My brother (who lives with me) also has one and I got mine purely out of envy and the desire to shoot it with him recreationally. However a few kids in town were recruited by the cartels to buy mass quantities of them LEGALLY at local gun stores. The ATF was monitoring a few of these kids, but had no grounds to arrest them simply for buying the guns because they weren't breaking the law here... Ah screw it...this is going to Wells anyway

    The truth about the Fast and Furious scandal - Fortune Features

    A Fortune investigation reveals that the ATF never intentionally allowed guns to fall into the hands of Mexican drug cartels. How the world came to believe just the opposite is a tale of rivalry, murder, and political bloodlust. By Katherine Eban

    features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com

    007Spartan

  • It seems like a lot of you attended Wells. Is that right?

    Wells College Home

    Wells College Website Home Page

    www.wells.edu
    signature image

    Turtleneck ●

  • Dude, stfu with your political quips. No one wants to hear about your genius take on gun control, so take it over to wells.

    lpg2624 ●

Michigan State
247Sports
Features
Resources
Connect

247Sports In partnership with CBS Sports