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Enrico Palazzo said...
"Because I believe it's to be between a man and woman"
the ultimate cop out answer to avoid saying "because I don't like gay people."
This country was built by people who worked hard then went home and had just a few too many every night. Then went back to work.
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vator88 said...
You're such the typical lib. Jump all over someone for saying they believe in the biblical definition of marriage, but you won't touch it when Muslim's condemn gays to death. You're entirely comfortable with Boston's Mayor Menino condemning Chick Fil A, yet when he gives a couple million dollar piece of property to a Muslim group who counts among their spiritual advisers an Imam whose position on homosexuality is "evolving" as follows:
“A homosexual should be given the same punishment as any sexual pervert . . . Some say we should throw them from a high place, like God did with the people of Sodom. Some say we should burn them.”
http://bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view.bg?articleid=1061148809
It only took Obama one election cycle to have his position evolve to the point he was okay with gay marriage, how long do you think Mayor Menino's buddy will take to decide if gay people should be put to death by throwing them from a high place or burning them?
You confront the one not because it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, but because you know there is no downside to it. You won't confront the other-you can't argue that a group who condemns people to death is far worse then a person saying they don't support gay marriage-because you fear the response. And we know it's the latter, because in multiple posts you have made the claim you stand some 6'4" tall, and yet people have no qualms about walking up-according to your accounts, of course-and hurling racial insults at your wife. Nope, easier for you to sit on a message board, condemn people who aren't going to respond in a violent manner, puff your chest by using some swear words, and whistle past the graveyard when it comes to real intolerance.
"If you have the right to be offended I have the right to offend you." - Ricky Gervais
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TravelinMan said...
But you wouldn't have been allowed to do so if your wife was also your sister, 1st cousin, Mom, or other close relation. You would have not been able to do so if your wife was 15 years old.
Yeah, it's sort of a dumb argument, but technically correct.
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vator88 said...
Why is sexual attraction the defining issue in being able to marry? Why shouldn't two people of the same sex be allowed to marry and combine households even though they might be heterosexual? Perhaps they have a very deep friendship, one or both are single parents, and they think it would be best to combine as a family unit for reasons other then sexual attraction. In fact, they may keep seperate rooms, and engage in heterosexual romantic relationships outside their 'marriage'. Why do you insist that sexual attraction be the defining component of a marriage? Further, if gay marriage is okay-I'm not saying it is or it isn't-how does one deny people who want to live in a polygamous or polyamorous marriage?
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doc_spartan said...
There are pretty clear reasons for that right? - in one case the person isn't old enough to make a legally binding decision - in other cases you significantly increase the chances of genetic problems
Neither of those apply in the case of homosexual marriage between adults.
This post was edited by fallenangle on 7/31/2012 at 1:43 PM
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Julian said...
Can you explain to me why religious people are allowed to just pick parts of the bible to lose their minds over ?
"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. " = Gay people cant marry and people freak out
"And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death." = crickets. Shouldnt you be out killing peoples kids that disrespect them ?
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RQA said...
Men and women are different. As such both a father and mother bring something unique to a marriage and parenting that the other can't based on gender. I believe that as fathers, men offer a role that is unique and best filled by a male. Same for mothers. To say that a union of two men or two women is equivalent to a union between a man and a woman is to deny gender differences. Perhaps the end of gender distinctions is the ultimate goal of those favoring gay marriage.
Disclaimer: I have NOT said that gay men or women cannot be excellent parents. I have NOT said that gay people are not entitled to equal rights.
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RQA said...
Men and women are different. As such both a father and mother bring something unique to a marriage and parenting that the other can't based on gender. I believe that as fathers, men offer a role that is unique and best filled by a male. Same for mothers. To say that a union of two men or two women is equivalent to a union between a man and a woman is to deny gender differences. Perhaps the end of gender distinctions is the ultimate goal of those favoring gay marriage.
Disclaimer: I have NOT said that gay men or women cannot be excellent parents. I have NOT said that gay people are not entitled to equal rights.
This post was edited by doc_spartan on 7/31/2012 at 5:15 PM
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doc_spartan said...
If we legalize homosexual marriage wouldn't that in practice make allowance for your first example?
Who says I'm insisting that sexual attraction be the defining characteristic for marriage....I don't think I ever said that?....heck there are a lot of elderly folks who don't have sex anymore that are married...I'm good with that.
Someone would have to work out the tax consequences of polygamy but hey...I'm ok with that too.
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Can you explain to me why religious people are allowed to just pick parts of the bible to lose their minds over ?
"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. " = Gay people cant marry and people freak out
"And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death." = crickets. Shouldnt you be out killing peoples kids that disrespect them ?
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Enrico Palazzo said...
damn, you are one angry, hateful little excuse for a man.
Sorry, I think all religion is bullshit and basing any law on fictional books is crap. I didn't know about the Boston Muslim stuff so how could I be defending it? I don't give a damn what Muslims think, I don't give a damn about what Christians think. Let them live in their fantasy world where the dude in the sky tells them who to hate, chooses who wins sporting events, and chooses who lives and dies when some psycho shoots up a movie theater but keep it out of policy making. I haven't said anything about Boston, I don't give a fuck about Boston. It's a city with an incredible inferiority complex that I laugh at. I dislike all of their sports teams (but do enjoy Harpoon Beer. Tasty stuff, especially when they let me drink out of the tank!). I do know that MY mayor criticized them for their stance against Hate-Fil-A and he stood up against conservatives to allow Muslims to build their community center when it was Christians who wanted to stop it.
As for the stuff about my wife, more fantasy from you. I didn't know her in middle and high school so how could I say something to the white bigots she had to deal with? Keep on living in your deluded world, vator88. Maybe rageoholics anonymous is a good first step for you?
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I am against gay marriage.