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I don't think it will get tossed at the prelim, but I don't think Zimmerman gets convicted by a jury. His defense team will make sure the jury is all white.

Such as Zimmerman following Martin and then chasing him, for no obvious reason and even though police told him not to. Such as the voice analysis which shows Zimmerman is not the person crying for help, despite Zimmerman's claims. Such as Martin being unarmed. Such as Zimmerman's prior history of violence and mental instability.

but again, keep your fingers crossed angle, could be a wannabe police "vigilante" walks after his poor judgement led to the death of an unarmed juvenile. You planning to throw a party?

And yet nobody here cared about this law when it was white people who were the ones getting killed

WTF are you babbling about now.

Delusions of persecution.

Your true "colors" are really starting to show, as if there was ever any doubt.

Don't bother with the poster formerly called Spartan Stew

No hospitalization required. That's queer...

No hospitalization required. That's queer...

Reasonable doubt to self defense is relevant. As angle gleefully points out the case could be thrown out during prelims.

yes, manslaughter is still an option.

compowned as usual has no idea what he is talking about.

I've already stated more than once that I don't think Zimmerman committed murder. However, he followed Martin, played police and exited his vehicle and gave chase, vigilante style. This completely idiotic lack of good judgement should be punishable.

involuntary manslaughter seems like a good charge, but of course Florida's f'd up legal system doesn't recognize involuntary MS.

BTW, I know a HELL of a lot more about this case than you do. That much is obvious.

"During further questioning by O'Mara, Gilbreath admitted that the state has no evidence who started the fight. There is also no evidence that Zimmerman didn't walk back to his car after chasing Martin on foot, as the defendant has claimed."

But he did chase him on foot, after being told by police not to. That speaks volumes. Or, at least, it would, in a reasonable world.

Even if acquitted, Zimmerman will never have peace on this Earth, he brought that on himself.

Usually lesser included offenses can be included. It is up to the defense attorney if you want the lessors included as an option I believe. Sometimes you want them as a defense lawyer with the hope that the jury splits the baby and gives your guy the lesser vs. not including it and rolling the dice that the jury will have the nads to convict. Juries do crazy crap. I had a case where my client allegedly sold drugs to an undercover while under surveillence from a van of narc officers, and I got him off the sales charge but the jury nailed him on the possession charge. Client was very happy. 3 years instead of the possible 15 for selling. He already had a year in with good behavior he was out in a few months.