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NASA scientists criticize agency: "ignoring imperical evidence"

  • Weird, I thought the "science was settled". I guess "GreenSpartan" from Wells Hall needs to set these flat earthers straight lol

    Former NASA Scientists, Astronauts Criticize Agency on Climate Change Position and Policy of Ignoring Empirical Evidence

    Former NASA Scientists, Astronauts Criticize Agency on Climate Change Position and Policy of Ignoring Empirical Evidence 49 former NASA scientists and astronauts sent a letter to NASA Administrator Charles Bolden last week criticizing the agency for it’s role in advocating a high degree of certainty that man-made CO2 is a major cause of climate change while neglecting empirical evidence that calls the theory into question, according to Leighton Steward of Plants Need CO2. 49 former NASA scientists and astronauts sent a letter to NASA Administrator Charles Bolden last week criticizing the agency for it’s role in advocating a high degree of certainty that man-made CO2 is a major cause of climate change while neglecting empirical evidence that calls the theory into question, according to H. Leighton Steward of the non-profit Plants Need CO2, who attended the meetings when the letter was drafted. The group, which includes seven Apollo astronauts and two former directors of NASA’s Johnson Space Center in Houston, indicated in the letter that they are disappointed over the failure of NASA, and specifically the Goddard Institute For Space Studies (GISS), to make an objective assessment of all available scientific data on climate change. H. Leighton Steward, chairman of the non-profit Plants Need CO2, noted that many of the former NASA scientists harbor doubts about the significance of the C02-climate change theory and have concerns over NASA’s advocacy on the issue. While making presentations in late 2011 to many of the signatories of the letter, Steward realized that the NASA scientists should make their concerns known to NASA and the GISS. “These American heroes – the astronauts that took to space and the scientists and engineers that put them there – are simply stating their concern over NASA’s unusual advocacy for an unproven theory,” said Leighton Steward. There’s a concern that if it turns out that CO2 is not a major cause of climate change, NASA will have put the reputation of NASA, NASA’s current and former employees, and even the very reputation of science itself at risk of public ridicule and distrust. The unbridled advocacy of CO2 being the major cause of climate change is unbecoming of NASA’s history of making an objective assessment of all available scientific data prior to making decisions or public statements. /s/ Dr. Donald M. Curry - JSC, Mgr. Shuttle Leading Edge, Thermal Protection Sys., Engr. Deputy Director, Space Shuttle Program, 19 years /s/ Gerald C. Griffin – JSC, Apollo Flight Director, and Director of Johnson Space Center, 22 years JSC, Flight crew training and operations, 3 years /s/ Robert F. Thompson - JSC, Program Manager, Space Shuttle, 44 years/s/ Frank Van Renesselaer - Hdq., Mgr. Shuttle Solid Rocket Boosters, 15 years

    www.chron.com

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  • Compound 2 said...

    Weird, I thought the "science was settled". I guess "GreenSpartan" from Wells Hall needs to set these flat earthers straight lol

    Greenspartan would just say that they are not "real scientists" so their views don't count.

    lars

  • That's fine, as long as NASA, among others, continue to supply data, CLIMATE SCIENTISTS can analyze the data.

    No big deal.

    I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this.

    RP McMurphy

  • lars said...

    Greenspartan would just say that they are not "real scientists" so their views don't count.

    No he wouldn't. And the fact you anc compound can't go through a day without misrepresenting other posters' views is pathetic.

    I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this.

    RP McMurphy

  • Compound 2 said...

    Weird, I thought the "science was settled". I guess "GreenSpartan" from Wells Hall needs to set these flat earthers straight lol

    Science is never settled. Thats the whole fucking point, people have rational disagreements settled with objective and testable evidence.

    The amazing part is that by continuing this cycle if you're wrong, eventually it will come out.

    Foxbat

  • Foxbat said...

    Science is never settled. Thats the whole fucking point, people have rational disagreements settled with objective and testable evidence.

    The amazing part is that by continuing this cycle if you're wrong, eventually it will come out.

    NO, IT'S SETTLED. THE GOD DAMN SCIENCE IS SETTLED AND WE MUST IMMEDIATELY PASS GLOBAL LAWS AND TAXES TO LIMIT YOUR DRIVING, YOUR CONSUMPTION, AND HOW OFTEN YOU USE WATER.

    THROW FOXBAT IN THE GULAG. HE'S ONE OF THOSE FLAT EARTHERS. RACIST.

    Prison Planet.com » Global Warming Alarmist Calls For Eco-Gulags To Re-Educate Climate Deniers

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/global-warming-alarmist-calls-for-eco-gulags-to-re-educate-climate-deniers.html

    www.prisonplanet.com

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  • FishHead said...

    You mean CLIMATE SCIENTISTS can skew the data dont you???

    No.

    And you are not qualified to comment on the data or the analytical methodology or climate science in general.

    I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this.

    RP McMurphy

  • Personally, I like my scientists to focus on empirical evidence and stay away from the "imperical" stuff. That stuff's bad for you.

    John Dewey

  • FishHead said...

    Ill play Green Spartan.

    You are too stupid to understand the science, why should I even explain it those so far beneath me, here is an article from RealClimate.com from 2004 to show how accurate the information is, morons.frustrated

    That's pretty good. Do you do anyone else?

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  • FishHead said...

    Can you send me a qualification sheet so I can get my paper work in order to become qualified, thanks in advance tool....

    Seriously, what formal training have you had in science? I'm not even going to ask about climate science because I know the answer to that one. lol

    I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this.

    RP McMurphy

  • FishHead said...

    Are you frigging kidding me?? So only trained scientists can comment on the subject here now?? Dude, you are losing it....lol

    So what is your opinion on membrane theory? Is this the grand unified theory we have been looking for to unite the theories of relativity and quantum mechanics or is it a crock being put forth by elitist theoretical physicists seeking grant money?

    John Dewey

  • FishHead said...

    Are you frigging kidding me?? So only trained scientists can comment on the subject here now?? Dude, you are losing it....lol

    You can comment on anything youi want. Doesn't make you qualified to do so.

    Anyway, your reply answered my question. Thanks.

    I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this.

    RP McMurphy

  • John Dewey said...

    So what is your opinion on membrane theory? Is this the grand unified theory we have been looking for to unite the theories of relativity and quantum mechanics or is it a crock being put forth by elitist theoretical physicists seeking grant money?

    frustrated

    I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this.

    RP McMurphy

  • Compound 2 said...

    NO, IT'S SETTLED. THE GOD DAMN SCIENCE IS SETTLED AND WE MUST IMMEDIATELY PASS GLOBAL LAWS AND TAXES TO LIMIT YOUR DRIVING, YOUR CONSUMPTION, AND HOW OFTEN YOU USE WATER.

    THROW FOXBAT IN THE GULAG. HE'S ONE OF THOSE FLAT EARTHERS. RACIST.

    You make it too easy.

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  • spartan 4show said...

    You make it too easy.

    Wow. Good one

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  • spartan 4show said...

    You make it too easy.

    Hyperbole and low effort thought are his speciality.

    I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this.

    RP McMurphy