Wells Hall Off Topic Board

No, the opposite. Since no one knows anything, the lobbies have more power. And since everyone will be out of office in a few years, they have their eye on a nice cushy lobbyist job. Best way to get one of those is to be a team player.

Do you even understand how term limts work? Let me break it down for you...

A candidate is ineligible to run for a state House seat if the have been voted to such a seat three times (6 years ). Two times (8 years ) for the senate. Name another career other than dishdog at a restaurant where you want the person to have such minimal experience. Want a newbie dentist? Surgeon? Mechanic?

The only people currently in Lansing with extensive experience are the unelected staffers and the lobbyists.

So yeah, it is the term limits. Before the artificial limit was put in place, you would have had a point, but not now.

The problem is career legislators suck also so I guess I side with not having career politicians.

I see your point, but we had "term limits" available before the artificial limits were put in place...they were called elections. If a career politician blew, he could be voted out. But our electorate gets lazy and worries more about American Idol. Rather than get the electorate engaged, we dumbed the system down to the lowest common denominator.

I guess we get the government we deserve.

Fireworks will be all the rage until some legislator who voted for the new rules loses a their roof / home/business/farm crop from fire caused by some fireworks someone else buys starts the fires.

Another career: President of the United States

I get it, term limits limit the time people are on the job and, theoretically means that there is more inexperience. Problem is, without term limits, you have a bunch of fat and happy legislators and career politicians that would rather sit on their asses and do nothing than actually get something done. And Americans elect inexperienced legislators all the time so it can't be that we value "experience" more than anything else. Case in point: President Obama over McCain or Snyder over Benero, etc.

Still, blaming an ineffective legislature on term limits rather than the masses who elected them is a bit misguided. They still have to get elected and if you voted for a dumbass, then you need to take responsibility for voting for a dumbass. They're still passing bad laws regardless of whether they're in there for 2 terms or 10.

dont know if its been already said but how hard is it to shut windows and turn ac on?

Politics is not supposed to be a career.

Just make a note of who is lighting them off and return the favor at 5am.

Says who? Term limits didn't exist until opponents of FDR wanted to prevent another 4 term run in the presidency.

Says the fact that most all of our founding fathers spent time in politics and then returned to previous occupations, or dabbled in politics as something on the side of their existing occupation. Term limits weren't included because the idea of a career elected leader was alien.

Can we make a distinction between fireworks that make cool sights versus M-80s and other bombs?

I live in a formally quiet neighborhood. Every night now is bombs exploding. How does this change in law improve quality of life?

Have you read the law?

"Sec. 7. (1) Except as provided in this act, a local unit of government shall not enact or enforce an ordinance, code, or regulation pertaining to or in any manner regulating the sale, display, storage, transportation, or distribution of fireworks regulated under this act.

(2) A local unit of government may enact an ordinance regulating the ignition, discharge, and use of consumer
fireworks. However, an ordinance enacted under this subsection shall not regulate the use of consumer fireworks on the day preceding, the day of, or the day after a national holiday."

Cities can not enact an ordinance against the sale of fireworks, however they are free to enact ordinances regulating the use of fireworks other than on national holidays and the days before and after.