Wells Hall Off Topic Board

Nothing can fail like the fallenangel schtick

The point about the 8% unemployment level was debunked a long time ago. Further, it's my understanding that spending cuts and job losses at the state level did a lot to minimize the positive impact of the stimulus. And then the other point is that economists like Krugman said that the stimulus would fail if it weren't several times larger than what it was and that Righties would hail it as an example of government failure. He was excactly right.

Nothing is more sorry than the uniformed thinking they know everything.

Hows that austerity working out in Europe?

Can you say double dip

Paul Krugman told people from the beginning that it would fail to have the intended effect because it wasn't nearly large enough. I have told you this before, so why you don't acknowledge it is a mystery.

Yes, people are going to vote for him again, unfortunately.

It is unfortunate because we have seen the results of his first 3.5 years. He and the libs have the much of the country thinking Obama has very little responsibility for the poor economy. Regardless of the economy, he will get most of the young voters (scary, considering the results lars posted recently regarding college grads), and minorities.

Whats good for liberals is bad for America.

You never have an original thought.

Do you like your healthcare?
Do you like your paid vacations and sick days?
Do you like your safe working environment?
Do you like the fact you have the option attending public universities?
Do you like FDIC insurance?
Do you like regulations for your retirement accounts?

You wouldn't have any of those things without "liberals" fighting the assholes you worship and think have all the answers.

This is ridiculous. All a bigger stimulus would have done is kick the can a little further down the road. I'm sure Obama hoped it would be a stopgap until some bullshit boom happened. He sure as hell isn't allowed to confront the real issue because the corporate overlords that run both parties won't let him. The American economy is fundamentally broken mainly because of "free" trade agreements that outsourced millions of jobs.

We were warned.

There was a time when all this was necessary.

Now is the time to fix the economy.

Brilliant retort. You really destroyed me with that laughing emoticon. If you were interested in a serious discussion (and you never have been), you would begin by acknowledging that the stimulus the WH was the best that they could get, not the one they wanted (if you actually listened to the advisers mentioned in the original piece, they've said multiple times that they believed they could get a second stimulus later). Anyone is free to disagree with the plan, but please don't be dense and pretend like the WH was satisfied with the size of the stimulus. Giving a sick person 1/3 of the drugs he needs to get well isn't going to help him completely heal and people didn't believe that this would do the trick, either.

I agree with you completely.

Everyone laughed at him for that in 1992, yet it's played out almost exactly as he said it would.

Does anyone still actually believe those millions of jobs don't matter? Additionally, does anyone seriously believe companies would have shifted all those jobs without those free trade agreements in place?

Why do people keep repeating the lie about the stimulus promising to hold unemployment to 8%...when it was passed that was not promised...that was a number from an early study that was not used as any kind of promise or target and yet people keep trying to use it as a benchmark.