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Psst. Mr. President....Today is D-Day (Not scheduling anything)

  • How about the Alamo, Patton v Rommel, or one of my favorites, R.E.Lee having a small amount of troops put campfires spread wide out along a ridge to frighten off McClellan and the Army of the Potomac.

    Nimrod

  • doc_spartan said...

    Ok...I give up....how in the world do you back up that statement?

    What criteria do you use?

    The Civil War and WWII were the two greatest wars this country participated in when measured on almost any scale.....cost, lives. etc. D-Day and Gettysburg were the two most important events in those wars....at least military historians will generally agree on that. So that's my opinion. Feel free to disagree. I'm not belittling any other conflict or battle, there are so many important ones. My father spent two years in the mud and snow of Italy in WWII. While there was no one battle in Italy that compared to the scope and importance of D-Day, what he and his fellow soldiers did there was every bit as important.

    Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity. - Frank Leahy.-- If you're going to be stupid, be smart about it. - Mike Milbury

    Bullwrinkle

  • I would pick different battles as being "defining military victories" for the US....but I suppose it depends on your definition of "defining military victory" and "battle".

    Not to get all nit picky with your definition, but Okinawa as an example was a WWII battle, was larger in scale than the US involvement in D-Day, had much higher casualties than D-Day, and was at arguably as important to the Pacific Theater as D-Day was to the European Theater. (I'd guess D-Day was larger overall, but included all of our allies....for Okinawa the US had to go it alone)

    My definition of "defining military victory" would be different than yours
    - a win against a competent foe
    - a battle where a loss would likely turn the tide of the entire war
    - critically important to protecting the nation

    By this definition the two battles that immediately come to mind would be Washington's victory at Yorktown, and Midway. You can make the argument that Yorktown was THE defining military victory...Washington and Adams both felt that the revolution was close to collapse...without that victory there would be no America as we know it.

    doc_spartan

  • Greenrocks said...

    Obama not scheduling anything today to commemorate the D-Day Anniversary.

    Obviously, there are not many votes left from the 'greatest generation' he can muster so in the Obama campaign's eyes, so who the F*ck Cares?

    And you wonder why GRR seems like the only vet who seems to support him.....

    Again....which president do you feel did a reasonable job of commemorating D-Day often enough to meet your sensibilities?

    doc_spartan

  • doc_spartan said...

    I would pick different battles as being "defining military victories" for the US....but I suppose it depends on your definition of "defining military victory" and "battle".

    Not to get all nit picky with your definition, but Okinawa as an example was a WWII battle, was larger in scale than the US involvement in D-Day, had much higher casualties than D-Day, and was at arguably as important to the Pacific Theater as D-Day was to the European Theater. (I'd guess D-Day was larger overall, but included all of our allies....for Okinawa the US had to go it alone)

    My definition of "defining military victory" would be different than yours - a win against a competent foe - a battle where a loss would likely turn the tide of the entire war - critically important to protecting the nation

    By this definition the two battles that immediately come to mind would be Washington's victory at Yorktown, and Midway. You can make the argument that Yorktown was THE defining military victory...Washington and Adams both felt that the revolution was close to collapse...without that victory there would be no America as we know it.

    That's kinda how I see it too.

    I take absolutely nothing away from the Normandy invasion as a key battle for the US but as far as defining our identity, I'd rate Yorktown, Gettysburg, and Midway higher than Normandy.

    MSULordyoda

  • MSULordyoda said...

    That's kinda how I see it too.

    I take absolutely nothing away from the Normandy invasion as a key battle for the US but as far as defining our identity, I'd rate Yorktown, Gettysburg, and Midway higher than Normandy.

    It's all in your definition....but I agree Gettysburg is on the list using Bull's definition or mine.

    And clearly D-Day is a really, really important battle no matter how you slice it.

    doc_spartan

  • Did greenschtick ever mention what branch of the military he did his service to his country?

    The GOP didn't do anything to improve Walter Reed in the Reagan, Bush1 or Bush2 years. The GOP never proposed increases in the VA budget comensurate with the increased patient load due to the extraordinary care in field hospitals and the ability to get the wounded from field hospitals to US Army hospital in Germany.

    How has the GOP thanked Vets? Reagan administration started talking about means testing in 1986. The GI Bill went from paying for college to time, dollar limits and require a payroll deduction The GOP supported the reductions in benefits.

    Sorry greenschtick, not buying your uber patriot act. Just because you want to see President Obama defeated in November doen't make you any more of an American then myself.

    So Nucky maybe its time to create a new Wells schtick on another proxy server

    GRR Spartan

  • GRR Spartan said...

    Did greenschtick ever mention what branch of the military he did his service to his country?

    I think as a board we should all donate $5 to pay somebody to keep track of how many times GRR accuses somebody of avoiding the draft or not serving in the military. It must be at least 5 times a day. I feel so bad for him (not really).

    Compound 2

  • Compound 2 said...

    I think as a board we should all donate $5 to pay somebody to keep track of how many times GRR accuses somebody of avoiding the draft or not serving in the military. It must be at least 5 times a day. I feel so bad for him (not really).

    well at 16581 posts, I'd set the over/under at 12000.

    FC Juventus

  • Isn't that cute. compound, the bravest little keyboard warrior on Wells has enlisted a fan.

    So FC are you another outraged brave keyboard warrior like compound and greenschtick?

    GRR Spartan

  • GRR Spartan said...

    Isn't that cute. compound, the bravest little keyboard warrior on Wells has enlisted a fan.

    So FC are you another outraged brave keyboard warrior like compound and greenschtick?

    At 16k+ posts it is your keyboard that thinks it has somebody warring on it.

    RQA

  • RQA said...

    At 16k+ posts it is your keyboard that thinks it has somebody warring on it.

    RQA has a counting obsession
    As a faux connie why are you bothered by posts counts since I should be free of your judging because connies love individual freedom. Or it there an exception my smarmy wells friend doesn't like it when someone doesn't slurp from the same connie trough of bs.

    GRR Spartan

  • GRR Spartan said...

    RQA has a counting obsession As a faux connie why are you bothered by posts counts since I should be free of your judging because connies love individual freedom. Or it there an exception my smarmy wells friend doesn't like it when someone doesn't slurp from the same connie trough of bs.

    I am not bothered by your post count. I am AMAZED by it. I think I spend way too much time on this board but in the same time frame as you have "only" 3k+ posts.

    RQA

  • RQA said...

    At 16k+ posts it is your keyboard that thinks it has somebody warring on it.

    His penis and his keyboard probably get into arguments about who has it worse lol

    Compound 2

  • GRR Spartan said...

    Isn't that cute. compound, the bravest little keyboard warrior on Wells has enlisted a fan.

    So FC are you another outraged brave keyboard warrior like compound and greenschtick?

    im only outraged by the fact that mitt gave a kid a haircut and that babcock still has a job frustrated

    FC Juventus

  • RQA said...

    I am not bothered by your post count. I am AMAZED by it. I think I spend way too much time on this board but in the same time frame as you have "only" 3k+ posts.

    You are certainly a person who takes me a lot more seriously than I take myself when it comes to posting. I am an opinionated SOB. Is it the number of posts that bothers you or that I question some of the Well's uber patriots who seem to cheer military conflict while making sure they never have / had to be in the military?

    You like to be in the peanut gallery. That's who you are. Poking at Pervis, Trapper and myself.
    That's your Wells personna

    Again. There is this circle thing with a line through it. Its an ignore function. There is no special feature that forces you to read or respond to anything I post. If you choose to open any posts/threads made by myself you must have some reason you keep on posting and keep specifically typing a portion of my screen name.

    Don't like my posts then put me on ignore. But 1000's of posts later you are still making remarks about the number of posts and content of my posts so its clear you are reading and responding.

    This post was edited by GRR Spartan on 6/7/2012 at 10:52 AM

    GRR Spartan

  • GRR Spartan said...

    You are certainly a person who takes me a lot more seriously than I take myself when it comes to posting.

    Is it the number of posts that bothers you or that I question some of the Well's uber patriots who seem to cheer military conflict while making sure they never have / had to be in the military?

    You like to be in the peanut gallery. That's who you are. Poking at Pervis, Trapper and myself.

    over / under revised to 12,001 lol

    FC Juventus

  • FC Juventus said...

    over / under revised to 12,001 lol

    FC did you get an ignore button or do you need to re-boot to get that ?

    GRR Spartan

  • GRR Spartan said...

    I question some of the Well's uber patriots who seem to cheer military conflict while making sure they never have / had to be in the military?

    He just did it again lol

    See, this is why we have to actually hire somebody to track this. No individual can do it without making it a full time job.

    Compound 2

  • GRR Spartan said...

    FC did you get an ignore button or do you need to re-boot to get that ?

    this is not the 1st time that i have no idea what you are trying to say confused

    FC Juventus

  • Nothing like pissing on the memories of those who served to try and pick up some cheap political points on a message board. Greenrocks is a cowardly POS.

    "Losing Benenoch is a mortal blow from which this program can't recover"-T-Pain

    Rogue Leader

  • Compound 2 said...

    I think as a board we should all donate $5 to pay somebody to keep track of how many times GRR accuses somebody of avoiding the draft or not serving in the military. It must be at least 5 times a day. I feel so bad for him (not really).

    Are schticks eligible to serve in the military?wink_msu

    Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity. - Frank Leahy.-- If you're going to be stupid, be smart about it. - Mike Milbury

    Bullwrinkle

  • GRR Spartan said...

    FC did you get an ignore button or do you need to re-boot to get that ?

    I have to admit you are the only poster I have ever considered putting on ignore. The sheer volume of stupidity you spew I fear does have lasting negative long term side effects on anyone subjected to actually reading them. But on the other hand, your stupidity is truly entertaining, like your recent claim that Ari Fleisher outed Valerie Plame, and your other many gems like your fables of Al Gore's exploits in Vietnam. If I put you on ignore, I would miss the opportunity to mock and belittle you the next time you make a completely false statement, and I would really feel cheated.wink_msu

    Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity. - Frank Leahy.-- If you're going to be stupid, be smart about it. - Mike Milbury

    Bullwrinkle