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Tell Obama that the governement didn't invent the Internet

  • Just don't ever forget that Xerox didn't do anything special. Is there a dirt road leading up to Xerox headquarters or is there a nice, paved road provided by your government so all businesses can engage in commerce?

    You guys just don't get how important Uncle Sam is in all of this. Al Gore too!

    MasonDelhiGuy

  • lars said...

    (Nor did Al Gore). A COMPANY called Xerox gets the credit.

    It's an urban legend that the government launched the Internet. The myth is that the Pentagon created the Internet to keep its communications lines up even in a nuclear strike. The truth is a more interesting story about how innovation happens—and about how hard it is to build successful technology companies even once the government gets out of the way.

    For many technologists, the idea of the Internet traces to Vannevar Bush, the presidential science adviser during World War II who oversaw the development of radar and the Manhattan Project. In a 1946 article in The Atlantic titled "As We May Think," Bush defined an ambitious peacetime goal for technologists: Build what he called a "memex" through which "wholly new forms of encyclopedias will appear, ready made with a mesh of associative trails running through them, ready to be dropped into the memex and there amplified."

    That fired imaginations, and by the 1960s technologists were trying to connect separate physical communications networks into one global network—a "world-wide web." The federal government was involved, modestly, via the Pentagon's Advanced Research Projects Agency Network. Its goal was not maintaining communications during a nuclear attack, and it didn't build the Internet.

    Robert Taylor, who ran the ARPA program in the 1960s, sent an email to fellow technologists in 2004 setting the record straight: "The creation of the Arpanet was not motivated by considerations of war. The Arpanet was not an Internet. An Internet is a connection between two or more computer networks."

    If the government didn't invent the Internet, who did? Vinton Cerf developed the TCP/IP protocol, the Internet's backbone, and Tim Berners-Lee gets credit for hyperlinks.

    But full credit goes to the company where Mr. Taylor worked after leaving ARPA: Xerox. It was at the Xerox PARC labs in Silicon Valley in the 1970s that the Ethernet was developed to link different computer networks. Researchers there also developed the first personal computer (the Xerox Alto) and the graphical user interface that still drives computer usage today.

    According to a book about Xerox PARC, "Dealers of Lightning" (by Michael Hiltzik), its top researchers realized they couldn't wait for the government to connect different networks, so would have to do it themselves.

    It's important to understand the history of the Internet because it's too often wrongly cited to justify big government. It's also important to recognize that building great technology businesses requires both innovation and the skills to bring innovations to market. As the contrast between Xerox and Apple shows, few business leaders succeed in this challenge. Those who do—not the government—deserve the credit for making it happen.

    Truth is the first casualty of leftists.

    Have you seen Obama's campaign commercials.

    Green Note

  • MasonDelhiGuy said...

    Just don't ever forget that Xerox didn't do anything special. Is there a dirt road leading up to Xerox headquarters or is there a nice, paved road provided by your government so all businesses can engage in commerce?

    You guys just don't get how important Uncle Sam is in all of this. Al Gore too!

    pavement paid for and built by private citizens and the companies they did not build.

    Green Note

  • MasonDelhiGuy said...

    Just don't ever forget that Xerox didn't do anything special. Is there a dirt road leading up to Xerox headquarters or is there a nice, paved road provided by your government so all businesses can engage in commerce?

    You guys just don't get how important Uncle Sam is in all of this. Al Gore too!

    The people who were actually involved with the creation of the internet don't seem to be in agreement with the guy who's trying to make a pro-business point in the Wall Street Journal. When it comes to the question of how the internet was invented, I'll trust the people responsible for it. You can trust the opinion columnist and staunch Republican lars, but your credibility takes a hit when you do.

    Pervis Muldoon

  • MasonDelhiGuy said...

    Just don't ever forget that Xerox didn't do anything special. Is there a dirt road leading up to Xerox headquarters or is there a nice, paved road provided by your government so all businesses can engage in commerce?

    You guys just don't get how important Uncle Sam is in all of this. Al Gore too!

    Xerox was/is a great company, especially in the 60s and 70a, and is responsible for a hell of a lot of ingenious products and innovative thinking. Too bad that has zero to do with Lars' disinformation.

    Jack Greer

  • Jack Greer said...

    Xerox was/is a great company, especially in the 60s and 70a, and is responsible for a hell of a lot of ingenious products and innovative thinking. Too bad that has zero to do with Lars' disinformation.

    So xerox had nothing to do with the internet?

    lars

  • lars said...

    So xerox had nothing to do with the internet?

    Didn't invent the internet. More dishonesty, lars?

    Jack Greer

  • lars said...

    So xerox had nothing to do with the internet?

    You would think you would want this thread to quietly fade away.

    ming

  • ming said...

    You would think you would want this thread to quietly fade away.

    This is lars we're talking about here.

    He's sadly becoming the new Optiking.

    MSULordyoda

  • Who invented the Internet?: The outrageous conservative claim that every tech innovation came from private enterprise. - Slate Magazine

    Earlier this month, President Obama argued that wealthy business people owe some of their success to the governmentThe...

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