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Giant Moose said...
I posted about the education statistics of the entire metro Detroit, which is 26.3% or eighth worst in the country. The Detroit area is not educated enough despite what you think.
See: http://money.cnn.com/2010/10/01/pf/college/Americas_brainiest_cities/index.htm
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Yellowledbetter said...
makes him feel better about his shitty basketball program and the douchebags of head coaches at his school(also, how's the Wiscy hockey team doing?) and seems to be an ingrained charachteristic in people from Chicago to senselessly bash on Detroit, its as if they are insecure about their own city. (and this is coming from a Chicagoan).
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ninowesco said...
hardest part about this thread was deciding how to divy up the daily down votes
I think most of them went to Giant Moose
the best thing about Detroit is that it's full of people from Michigan
that makes it inherently better than cleveland, milwaukee, cincinnati or any other cities of that ilk
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Walter_Sanchez said...
You don't need to, just read this thread.
The thing is, people don't want to spend their entire lives hoping Detroit will turn around when there are hundreds of better places to live. You need to become a more suitable place for people to live, then they will come. You can't sell people on moving somewhere to help turn it around unless they are from Detroit area or whatever.
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Misterray said...
Ok.
Let's address the bachelor's degree issue. Yes, there are relatively few bachelor's degrees in the city. (11%) But in the immediately surrounding communities, there are many many more. Examples: 30% in Dearborn, 47% in Royal Oak, 51% in Farmington Hills, 66% in Grosse Point, 74% in Birmingham.
So why does this percentage matter?
Are you trying to attract business to Detroit? If so then you recognize that an employer will draw from these surrounding areas. As in any large metro area, people commute to work. Many of these people already work downtown.
Are you trying to say something about the kind of person in Detroit? Well, then you know that people from all these communities are to be found in Detroit engaged in all sorts of activities.
There are plenty of successful highly educated people working and living in and around Detroit. If the surrounding communities ALSO had low rates of Bachelor's degrees, that would be a much more serious problem. Singling out statistics like you did is simple-minded and ignores the fact that we are talking about a highly interdependent metro area. Taken out of the context of the surrounding metro area, the 11% stat sounds much worse than when one understands the reality of the situation. It leads the reader to the conclusion that there is no educated workforce available and no hope of acquiring one. That's not true.
The challenge is to entice some of these folks back into Detroit itself. The census suggests that this is happening in a small way. Time will tell whether it will continue.
Context ALWAYS matters when rattling off stats.
This post was edited by Chitown_Badger on 3/13/2012 at 1:35 PM
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Chitown_Badger said...
I have respect for the people representing Detroit and working to turn it around. I just don't see many situations where someone without a prior connection would ever choose to live there. Of course, there are other cities that are struggling as well...Milwaukee, Baltimore, Cleveland, Buffalo, and Cincinnati come to mind. The rust belt has taken a beating over the past 50 years, and Detroit got a double whammy because of the auto industry troubles.
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Chitown_Badger said...
The counter to your argument is that all big cities would have a higher number of highly educated people living in the suburbs. So I don't know how that context changes things. And take into account the supposed underwhelming mass transit, and system, and that highly educated populace becomes even less accessible. I'm not sure if there are any tax incentives for businesses relocating to Detroit proper, but there is a lot of incentive for businesses to instead land in the burbs where the bulk of the workforce is.
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