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Unbiased, MSNBC Journalist Showing His Love For The Troops

  • Jane Fonda no doubt approves.

    MSNBC’s Chris Hayes apologizes for questioning use of ‘heroes’ to describe fallen soldiers | The Cutline - Yahoo! News

    From the blog The Cutline: Chris Hayes, host of MSNBC's weekend morning talk show to describe fallen U.S. soldiers. After an interview with Lt. Col. Steve Beck, a former Marine whose job was to notify military families of the death of a loved one, Hayes [...]

    news.yahoo.com

    Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity. - Frank Leahy.-- If you're going to be stupid, be smart about it. - Mike Milbury

    Bullwrinkle

  • Why should you care? You don't watch MSNBC and believe whatever FoxNews spews.

    Difference between FoxNews and MSNBC? The latter can go off script.

    GRR Spartan ●

  • GRR Spartan said...

    Why should you care? You don't watch MSNBC and believe whatever FoxNews spews.

    Difference between FoxNews and MSNBC? The latter can go off script.

    But do you care?

    Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity. - Frank Leahy.-- If you're going to be stupid, be smart about it. - Mike Milbury

    Bullwrinkle

  • Better start another sympathy thread for terrorists trollwrinkle.

    Of course you'll be voting for Romney who is a great American military leader too. At the height of the Viet Nam adventure Mitt got to live in France for two years proselytizing the Mormon faith. None of his sons ever enlisted either.

    GRR Spartan ●

  • GRR Spartan said...

    Better start another sympathy thread for terrorists trollwrinkle.

    Of course you'll be voting for Romney who is a great American military leader too. At the height of the Viet Nam adventure Mitt got to live in France for two years proselytizing the Mormon faith. None of his sons ever enlisted either.

    But do you care?

    Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity. - Frank Leahy.-- If you're going to be stupid, be smart about it. - Mike Milbury

    Bullwrinkle

  • GRR Spartan said...

    Why should you care? You don't watch MSNBC and believe whatever FoxNews spews.

    Difference between FoxNews and MSNBC? The latter can go off script.

    The real question should be why does bullwinky hate free speech?

    Madhatter536

  • That's an interesting comment - and, of course, led to a predictably angry and boring reaction from Bullwrinkle. It's been clear to me for a long time that the word "hero" is used as part of the continuing pro-war promotional campaign, but those who've died in service to the country deserve to be called heroes - so I don't have a problem with it.

    What gets really bad is when the pro-war promoters tell us that if we're against whatever war they're promoting, we must be against the troops. You'd have to be a moron to buy that.

    Pervis Muldoon ●

  • I agree with Hayes' intent, and am entirely unsurprised by the backlash. I read a piece on the matter earlier today that I thought was quite good.

    Pundits, Platitudes, and Patriotism: War Heroes and Their Enemies

    On Sunday, MSNBC host Chris Hayes said the following, in a discussion about war, soldiers, and death:

    gawker.com

    http://www.aip.org/history/einstein/essay.htm

    iCameron

  • That would come from the same trollwrinkle whose been singing the praises of the Ryan budget that does nothing for the vets.

    But being who he is, trollwrinkle doesn't give a damn about this generation of vets.

    GRR Spartan ●

  • what a smug liberal POS. Just shows what they truly think of our great troops.

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    Viggo_Martyr

  • Viggo_Martyr said...

    what a smug liberal POS. Just shows what they truly think of our great troops.

    Meanwhile, you have the utmost respect for every white conservative who's ever served in the military - our military or Germany's. lulz1111

    This post was edited by Pervis Muldoon on 5/29/2012 at 7:56 PM

    Pervis Muldoon ●

  • iCameron said...

    I agree with Hayes' intent, and am entirely unsurprised by the backlash. I read a piece on the matter earlier today that I thought was quite good.

    Exactly. It's a perfectly legitimate question and none of the people who are criticizing him seemingly paid any attention to most of the things he said.

    Chris Hayes is afraid the word 'hero' is used to justify more war ---> Chris Hayes wants less war ---> Less war means fewer American soldiers (and others) dying ---> Chris Hayes hates the troops.

    Truly brilliant.

    Politics - Conor Friedersdorf - In Defense of Chris Hayes - The Atlantic

    The MSNBC host is getting beat up for remarks he made about the heroism of American soldiers. Really, his critics are the ones who should be apologizing.

    www.theatlantic.com

    HillSpartan

  • Pretty surprising from Chris Hayes. When I saw the thread title I was expecting it to be Ed Schultz. That guy annoys the hell out of me.

    Research is what I am doing when I don’t know what I am doing - Werner von Braun

    Green Genes

  • So why are these vets all heroes but the Viet Nam vets were and are ignored?

    Some of the war wimps here want to enlighten me?

    GRR Spartan ●

  • Green Genes said...

    Pretty surprising from Chris Hayes. When I saw the thread title I was expecting it to be Ed Schultz. That guy annoys the hell out of me.

    I haven't watched his (Chris') show very much, but from what I've seen he likes to inspire debate and talk about difficult issues. That was what happened here and there was no reason for him to apologize for it. Maybe people wouldn't have been so angry if they actually tried to understand his point. Also, I'm not really an Ed Schultz fan, either.

    HillSpartan

  • HillSpartan said...

    Also, I'm not really an Ed Schultz fan, either.

    I wonder why he's still on. I don't know anyone who's a fan of that show. It's like someone had an idea that conservatives have a lot of fat, obnoxious white guys yelling on TV and on the radio, so liberals should have one, too.

    I do like his ridiculous poll questions, though: "All right, get out yer phones. Are Republicans a bunch of drooling idiots who can't find their own taints with both hands and a GPS? Text 'A' for yes, or the entire alphabet in morse code for no."

    Pervis Muldoon ●

  • HillSpartan said...

    I haven't watched his (Chris') show very much, but from what I've seen he likes to inspire debate and talk about difficult issues. That was what happened here and there was no reason for him to apologize for it. Maybe people wouldn't have been so angry if they actually tried to understand his point. Also, I'm not really an Ed Schultz fan, either.

    Good point about Chris. I need to check out his show as I am mostly familiar with seeing him as a guest on other shows. He has always struck me as someone who measures his words pretty carefully and handles tough topics without being confrontational.

    Research is what I am doing when I don’t know what I am doing - Werner von Braun

    Green Genes

  • Viggo_Martyr said...

    what a smug liberal POS. Just shows what they truly think of our great troops.

    So when did you get your DD214 Viggo or are you just another bag of patriotic hot air bag who kept your sorry ass as far from the recruiting office as you could?

    GRR Spartan ●

  • GRR Spartan said...

    Better start another sympathy thread for terrorists trollwrinkle.

    Of course you'll be voting for Romney who is a great American military leader too. At the height of the Viet Nam adventure Mitt got to live in France for two years proselytizing the Mormon faith. None of his sons ever enlisted either.

    Interesting you say that in your normal vindictive, hateful, angry tone. I did the research and, suprisingly, I noticed our current commander in chief did not enlist in any branch of the military either. Why is it that the majority of vets support Romney?

    Poll: Veterans Overwhelmingly Support Romney Over Obama - The Ballot 2012 (usnews.com)

    Veterans are giving Romney a boost in the polls, adding to the GOP contender's lead among male voters

    www.usnews.com

    Greenrocks

  • Pervis Muldoon said...

    That's an interesting comment - and, of course, led to a predictably angry and boring reaction from Bullwrinkle. It's been clear to me for a long time that the word "hero" is used as part of the continuing pro-war promotional campaign, but those who've died in service to the country deserve to be called heroes - so I don't have a problem with it.

    What gets really bad is when the pro-war promoters tell us that if we're against whatever war they're promoting, we must be against the troops. You'd have to be a moron to buy that.

    Do you agree with his comments or not?

    Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity. - Frank Leahy.-- If you're going to be stupid, be smart about it. - Mike Milbury

    Bullwrinkle

  • Bullwrinkle said...

    Do you agree with his comments or not?

    If you mean his comment that the use of the word "hero" is "rhetorically proximate to justifications for more war," yes - because it is.

    If you mean his comment that "we marshal this word in a way that is problematic," as I said, "I don't have a problem with it."

    I thought I had been pretty clear on that, but you're apparently unsure whether to be outraged by my post or not. Go ahead and get angry - that's always fun!

    Pervis Muldoon ●

  • Pervis Muldoon said...

    If you mean his comment that the use of the word "hero" is "rhetorically proximate to justifications for more war," yes - because it is.

    If you mean his comment that "we marshal this word in a way that is problematic," as I said, "I don't have a problem with it."

    I thought I had been pretty clear on that, but you're apparently unsure whether to be outraged by my post or not. Go ahead and get angry - that's always fun!

    So you agreed with his comments. No surprise.

    Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity. - Frank Leahy.-- If you're going to be stupid, be smart about it. - Mike Milbury

    Bullwrinkle

  • Bullwrinkle said...

    So you agreed with his comments. No surprise.

    So you chose to get angry. Good for you!

    Pervis Muldoon ●

  • Pervis Muldoon said...

    So you chose to get angry. Good for you!

    Does your pretending I'm angry make you feel better about yourself?

    Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity. - Frank Leahy.-- If you're going to be stupid, be smart about it. - Mike Milbury

    Bullwrinkle

  • Madhatter536 said...

    The real question should be why does bullwinky hate free speech?

    So you didnt whine and complain in any of the Rush/Sandra Fluke threads right?

    MSUx2

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