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I'm curious...do you have some link to back up "libs hate Mormons"?

From my perspective it's conservative religious folks who take issue with Romney's faith.

Dude. You are on a roll (can we get a high five smilie?). Your keen insight into the liberal psyche is phenomenal. It must be because of your brilliant and precise definition of Liberals. You have inspired me to look deeper into my consciousness and become aware of all my hidden feelings. I am now aware of how much I fear Sarah Palin, how much I hate the Christian agenda and now how much I hate Mormons. Thank you. This explains so much. I now understand that when I occasionally hit my Mormon "friend" (should I start calling him my frienemy?) while playing racquetball it is because of a deep seated hatred. Well, I also sometimes hit my Muslim friend when we play and I think liberals are supposed to love Muslims so now I'm a bit conflicted. Can you please explain it to me?

Jim just provide the link as to why liberals hate Mormons.

Now if The Book of Morman said to kill Jews like the Koran he would have no issues with them.

I think it might have to do with Utah having the highest percentage of Mormons (approx 60%) and also being the most charitable state per capita. It conflicts so much with the compassionate liberals like VEEP Biden who charges the Secret Service $12,000 in rent to live on his property but only manages to give $329 a year to charity. Or Al Gore with his $353 annual charitable contributions. I guess I would hate a group that makes my heros look so cheap and hypocritical too.

Any Spartan Mormons here? I would like your take on this. I knew a number of Mormons when I lived in Tucson and found that, with the exception of their faith doctrine - which is their personal business, they held generally conservative views on the major topics of the day.

That bastion of progressive thinking known as Liberty university is quite fond of Mormons.

Libs have a hard-on for Muslims? Most libs I know are suspicious of anything that smells of militaristic/imperialistic overreach (so are those GOPers who back Ron Paul), and so have bad-mouthed a lot of U.S. policy in the Middle East. On the other hand, most libs (especially white libs), I know are fairly secular and very uncomfortable with fundamentalists of whatever stripe (Christian or Muslim). The only Muslim teacher at the high school I work at just finished a fellowship at a university that was paid for with a grant from the Koch Bros. The only Muslim student I've had in the last couple of years was devout (i.e., wore a veil and talked about her religious devotion a lot) AND extremely socially conservative. I have no idea what political leanings her family has, but I very much doubt that they hobnob with "libs." They might appreciate the fact that liberal politicians are a lot less likely to start wars that will ultimately kill hundreds of thousands of people in their country of origin, though ...

Any pics of Jesus's goddess wife?

Not a great book. An okay book, but not a great book. Linking it because it makes the connection between the fundamentalist extremism of certain portions of the American Right and the Islamic fundamentalist extremism that the American Right doesn't recognize as its spiritual twin.

1) The idea that the Tea Party is neatly divorced from the more socially conservative wing/s of the Republican Party is a nice fiction. I don't come on Wells often, but I'd bet money that issue has been addressed ad nauseum on here.

2) You asked why the Progressive Caucus wasn't willing to stoke the anti-Muslim rage. I replied by saying that as a lib I'm more concerned about the damage posed to our open society by our homegrown fundamentalists (i.e., rightwing Christian fundamentalists), which isn't to say that I'm completely unconcerned about radical Islamicists. I am much more confident with Obama's approach to that threat than that of House reactionaries. ALSO, I said that I am more worried about the threat the Tea Party poses to this country than Islamicists. Again, the Tea Party is closer to home. They are, in their worst incarnations, a collection of Ayn Randian libertarians with no appreciation of, or investment in the greater social good AND crony capitalists AND white-shoed, tax-dodging, let-the-buyer-beware money grubbers AND, yes, Moral Majority types.

For the Tea Party, politics is war by other means.