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John Dewey said...
I'm Mormon. Currently it is an accurate statement to say that most Mormons are conservatives. Historically, prominent members of the church have been both Democrat and Republicans. But a shift occurred from about the 70s or 80s onward with Mormons becoming more affiliated with the right. I think this was largely due to social/moral issues such as abortion and prayer in schools (with abortion being the real big one). Then (and this is just my opinion) once Mormons identified with the right as more "moral" they began to identify with the small government ideology and view this a more moral too (based on such moral principles as agency and accountability). Now many are very committed to the right. But it would be wrong to say that all Mormons are conservatives. There is still quite a bit of diversity. I am more liberal on most issues, because personally, I view liberal positions on such things as the economy, education, and the environment to be more moral. I'm still more right-leaning on some issues (e.g., I'm more for civil unions than gay marriage; I have no problem restricting things like porn and weed; I'm pro-life), but most issues I'm probably on the left. And I should clarify that I am a practicing Mormon (currently serving in a bishopric), so I'm not a non-representative Mormon.
As for who hates us the most...it's all good compared to what it used to be.
During the years in which the church was established, mobs were always killing Mormons, driving them from their homes, tar and feathering the leaders, and so on. It was actually legal to kill Mormons in Missouri. Now it's much better. Non-religious liberals like to make fun of us (see Jim, Cym). Evangelical Christians like to call us a cult. Most people just think we're a bit strange. But, overall, people treat us very well. I'm at a university and I've never had a colleague who was not been supportive of my religion and religious practices. I've also never had an evangelical friend who has not been supportive.
Hope that help.
This post was edited by Compound 2 on 5/21/2012 at 12:27 PM
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Compound 2 said...
I have a question and forgive me if this sounds ignorant as I have only known a few Mormons in my life so I am far from the expert. I've learned that the Mormon faith teaches one that it is a good thing to be prepared. That's why so many of the "prepper" companies are based out of Utah. In your opinion, let's assume for argument sake that a particular Mormon person is religious (i.e. a practicing Mormon)......are they likely to "prepare" regardless of whether they are on the right or the left or is this mostly practiced by only Mormons on the right. Are there many Mormons on the left who stockpile a year of food and stuff?
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John Dewey said...
Yes. Being prepared is an important value. Many church leaders have taught that we should have a years supply of food and finances and most practicing members (right or left) at least make an effort to do so. Self-reliance in general is emphasized a lot as well as staying out debt. I can see how these things play into a more conservative agenda. But caring for the poor and the evils of materialism are emphasized a lot too. However, these values don't play into the liberal agenda as much I think because many Mormons have already identified with the right and thus see government generally as an ineffective and corrupt system.
Mormons do donate very generously to the church's welfare system and this system works very well. A tremendous amount of money goes to caring for the poor and afflicted and it is done in a way that individuals are taught and mentored in principles of self-reliance. However, I admit sometimes trying to teach self-reliance is like banging your head against the wall. Nevertheless, I would say most Mormons believe strongly in the church's welfare system but now have great mistrust of government. From my perspective, some of the mistrust is justified but I also see how much of a positive effect many government programs and services provide and I know limited the reach of the church (and individuals) is.
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CVSpartan said...
Isn't it just one of the established mainstream denominations now? Don't they provide charity to all even to those that aren't Mormon? I know Glen Beck is a Mormon. What do you think of him? A bit of a doom and gloomer. Is he outside the Mormon mainstream? Last week he said that a lot the Mormons in the early days had multiple wives because so many of the men had been killed. Is that true?
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Vlad-t-Impaler said...
But your original post asked why libs "hate" Mitt because of his faith. Your question was so off-base that now you're trying to redirect this into who conservatives will vote for. Well DUH! Of course conservatives will vote for the Repub. What else is new???
You're full of nonsense CV.
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Yo Teach said...
Maybe at its start, but not anymore. Most of the true libertarians have cut ties since it has been taken over by the anti-intellectual far right of the party. Hell, Bachmann is the most visible member of the movement and she's about as far from libertarian as anyone in the GOP.
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CVSpartan said...
I knew several Mormons in Tucson. One I work with now lives in Fort Worth. From what they told me about the Mormon church I have no major objections to the official church positions.
Isn't it just one of the established mainstream denominations now? Don't they provide charity to all even to those that aren't Mormon? I know Glen Beck is a Mormon. What do you think of him? A bit of a doom and gloomer. Is he outside the Mormon mainstream? Last week he said that a lot the Mormons in the early days had multiple wives because so many of the men had been killed. Is that true?
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Compound 2 said...
As the self proclaimed only Glenn Beck fan on Wells Hall (yes, I just decided this 30 seconds ago) and as someone who still watches his entire show every day, I have never heard him say this. Do you have a link?
I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this.
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Compound 2 said...
So you have no link and are just lying again. You just mindlessly thought that if you link to his wikipedia that nobody would bother reading it. Can you be more of a hack?
This post was edited by RP McMurphy on 5/22/2012 at 10:38 AM
I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this.
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