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Io Triumphe said...
I think that's what it comes down to but I didn't want to bring religion up on tRCMB. Since you're a MOD... I'll give it a go.
Marriage is nothing more than a contract in the eyes of the state. That doesn't have to change in financially committed relationship. The whole marriage part of the relationship is a religious agreement for a God, of any religion. We, as a world and especially a country, are becoming more and more atheist with every generation. I think as time goes on and if this belief continues, and there is no reason to believe it will stop, we will see "marriage" slow down.
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J T said...
I suppose I should elaborate a little. We were together for about 9 years and then broke up for 6 months, never really feeling that marriage was inevitable (religious differences). Got back together a year ago after realizing we didn't want to be with anyone else. I've since saved up money for a ring, now I just have to find the right one. Should be married within a year or two. I'm soon to be 45 and she is 36, so having children at this point may be questionable. I guess I just enjoyed the non-married life for way too long.
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Rich Gozinya said...
Let her walk. Rule #1 of negotiating is don't be afraid to walk away. If she gives you an ultimatum and you give in, you're just setting yourself up for a lifetime of being bullied.
Tell that bitch that you'll commit when/if you're ready. Grow some backbone already.
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Io Triumphe said...
I think that's what it comes down to but I didn't want to bring religion up on tRCMB. Since you're a MOD... I'll give it a go.
Marriage is nothing more than a contract in the eyes of the state. That doesn't have to change in financially committed relationship. The whole marriage part of the relationship is a religious agreement for a God, of any religion. We, as a world and especially a country, are becoming more and more atheist with every generation. I think as time goes on and if this belief continues, and there is no reason to believe it will stop, we will see "marriage" slow down.
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Diodotus said...
you are so shockingly ignorant of Christianity and religion in general I'm tempted to simply gloss over this--but... marriage as a social and economic relationship existed long before monotheism. the first Christians were very divided about marriage. Some thought that they should follow Jesus' example and focus on leading lives of poverty and chastity. Others determined marriage to other Christians within the Jewish community was permissible. Followers of Paul in Greece and what is now Turkey were people with a cultural background very different from the mostly Jewish converts in Palestine and Rome. These people struggled greatly to reconcile with pagan societies. There were different dietary expectations, legal, and social arrangements which other Christians found abhorrent as former Jews. There were fights over whether Christians had to be circumcised, whether they could eat meat at pagan festivals, associate with non-Christians, fasting, etc. In the Roman world monogamous marriage from puberty on was the norm. Many married men and women loved each other, but rich men who could afford consorts often felt no moral need to remain sexually loyal to their spouses. Christian converts came from all social backgrounds and classes. They sometimes felt the need to leave their spouses. Some might have had Christian marriages and pagan marriages becoming effectively polygamous and abhorrent to Christians, Jews, and Roman law. Paul advised some that remaining virgins was good and the most sure path to God. For others gave the advice we usually see from Christians today on marriage. But most of all he told his followers to keep their eye on the bigger picture of faith in Jesus.
Long before their was a Christian explanation of marriage there was the human desire to marry. If people lose their faith the desire the marry will still persist.
This post was edited by Io Triumphe on 4/22/2012 at 9:52 PM
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Diodotus said...
you are so shockingly ignorant of Christianity and religion in general I'm tempted to simply gloss over this--but... marriage as a social and economic relationship existed long before monotheism. the first Christians were very divided about marriage. Some thought that they should follow Jesus' example and focus on leading lives of poverty and chastity. Others determined marriage to other Christians within the Jewish community was permissible. Followers of Paul in Greece and what is now Turkey were people with a cultural background very different from the mostly Jewish converts in Palestine and Rome. These people struggled greatly to reconcile with pagan societies. There were different dietary expectations, legal, and social arrangements which other Christians found abhorrent as former Jews. There were fights over whether Christians had to be circumcised, whether they could eat meat at pagan festivals, associate with non-Christians, fasting, etc. In the Roman world monogamous marriage from puberty on was the norm. Many married men and women loved each other, but rich men who could afford consorts often felt no moral need to remain sexually loyal to their spouses. Christian converts came from all social backgrounds and classes. They sometimes felt the need to leave their spouses. Some might have had Christian marriages and pagan marriages becoming effectively polygamous and abhorrent to Christians, Jews, and Roman law. Paul advised some that remaining virgins was good and the most sure path to God. For others gave the advice we usually see from Christians today on marriage. But most of all he told his followers to keep their eye on the bigger picture of faith in Jesus.
Long before their was a Christian explanation of marriage there was the human desire to marry. If people lose their faith the desire the marry will still persist.
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