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Why must everyone get married?

  • Io Triumphe said...

    I think that's what it comes down to but I didn't want to bring religion up on tRCMB. Since you're a MOD... I'll give it a go.

    Marriage is nothing more than a contract in the eyes of the state. That doesn't have to change in financially committed relationship. The whole marriage part of the relationship is a religious agreement for a God, of any religion. We, as a world and especially a country, are becoming more and more atheist with every generation. I think as time goes on and if this belief continues, and there is no reason to believe it will stop, we will see "marriage" slow down.

    Marriage is also a state institution that provides some legal benefits.

    Beardy

  • J T said...

    I suppose I should elaborate a little. We were together for about 9 years and then broke up for 6 months, never really feeling that marriage was inevitable (religious differences). Got back together a year ago after realizing we didn't want to be with anyone else. I've since saved up money for a ring, now I just have to find the right one. Should be married within a year or two. I'm soon to be 45 and she is 36, so having children at this point may be questionable. I guess I just enjoyed the non-married life for way too long.

    Have you lived together, though? I really don't see much difference between being married and living together for several years.

    I have no desire to get married. One of the reasons is that I just like my space. I don't want someone around me all the time, and feel crowded when they are. If I ever got to the point where I would feel comfortable living with someone, then I would just ask them to marry me.

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  • Rich Gozinya said...

    Well, it's pretty easy to ignore the pressure for something like marriage.

    until she thinks about leaving you because you wont commit.

    stupid beyonce ruining it for us

    GreenAllDay

  • Rich Gozinya said...

    Let her walk. Rule #1 of negotiating is don't be afraid to walk away. If she gives you an ultimatum and you give in, you're just setting yourself up for a lifetime of being bullied.

    Tell that bitch that you'll commit when/if you're ready. Grow some backbone already.

    Sounds like my bitch cousin. Poor guy.

    People are so insecure about being alone, so funny.

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  • Io Triumphe said...

    I think that's what it comes down to but I didn't want to bring religion up on tRCMB. Since you're a MOD... I'll give it a go.

    Marriage is nothing more than a contract in the eyes of the state. That doesn't have to change in financially committed relationship. The whole marriage part of the relationship is a religious agreement for a God, of any religion. We, as a world and especially a country, are becoming more and more atheist with every generation. I think as time goes on and if this belief continues, and there is no reason to believe it will stop, we will see "marriage" slow down.

    you are so shockingly ignorant of Christianity and religion in general I'm tempted to simply gloss over this--but...
    marriage as a social and economic relationship existed long before monotheism.
    the first Christians were very divided about marriage. Some thought that they should follow Jesus' example and focus on leading lives of poverty and chastity. Others determined marriage to other Christians within the Jewish community was permissible.
    Followers of Paul in Greece and what is now Turkey were people with a cultural background very different from the mostly Jewish converts in Palestine and Rome. These people struggled greatly to reconcile with pagan societies. There were different dietary expectations, legal, and social arrangements which other Christians found abhorrent as former Jews. There were fights over whether Christians had to be circumcised, whether they could eat meat at pagan festivals, associate with non-Christians, fasting, etc.
    In the Roman world monogamous marriage from puberty on was the norm. Many married men and women loved each other, but rich men who could afford consorts often felt no moral need to remain sexually loyal to their spouses. Christian converts came from all social backgrounds and classes. They sometimes felt the need to leave their spouses. Some might have had Christian marriages and pagan marriages becoming effectively polygamous and abhorrent to Christians, Jews, and Roman law.
    Paul advised some that remaining virgins was good and the most sure path to God. For others gave the advice we usually see from Christians today on marriage. But most of all he told his followers to keep their eye on the bigger picture of faith in Jesus.

    Long before their was a Christian explanation of marriage there was the human desire to marry. If people lose their faith the desire the marry will still persist.

    Diodotus

  • Fingercuffs said...

    Have you lived together, though? I really don't see much difference between being married and living together for several years.

    We did twice for about one year each time, but both times ended with me breaking up with her; she then had to find a new place to live (both times she moved in with me). Since we got back together a year ago, she said she wouldn't live with me again until we got married. I'm fine with that.

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  • What's the perfect girl if it's not the perfect time?

    That's been my dilemma for many years.

    I still have youth I want to use to bed different females.

    Howler

  • Diodotus said...

    Long before their was a Christian explanation of marriage there was the human desire to marry. If people lose their faith the desire the marry will still persist.

    Maybe what you say is true, but marriage rates are declining in many European countries where religion is declining and domestic partnership benefits exist.

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    ConQueso

  • I am so afraid of marriage

    marsdgost

  • Howler said...

    What's the perfect girl if it's not the perfect time?

    That's been my dilemma for many years.

    I still have youth I want to use to bed different females.

    Reminds me of this clip, about 1:05 in

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    The part in The Hangover where Doug, Phil, Stu and Alan drive to Las Vegas in the Mercedes convertible. "Am I alright over there Alan?" "Yeah, you're good." "OH MY GOD!" "That was awesome!" -- "You should have seen your face! Classic!"

    http://www.youtube.com/v/bCqOkaLqa0U
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  • I can't find anyone willing to date me, let alone marry me. Maybe I'm the lucky one after all.

    Drugs Delaney

  • Drugs Delaney said...

    I can't find anyone willing to date me, let alone marry me. Maybe I'm the lucky one after all.

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    GreenAllDay

  • Diodotus said...

    you are so shockingly ignorant of Christianity and religion in general I'm tempted to simply gloss over this--but... marriage as a social and economic relationship existed long before monotheism. the first Christians were very divided about marriage. Some thought that they should follow Jesus' example and focus on leading lives of poverty and chastity. Others determined marriage to other Christians within the Jewish community was permissible. Followers of Paul in Greece and what is now Turkey were people with a cultural background very different from the mostly Jewish converts in Palestine and Rome. These people struggled greatly to reconcile with pagan societies. There were different dietary expectations, legal, and social arrangements which other Christians found abhorrent as former Jews. There were fights over whether Christians had to be circumcised, whether they could eat meat at pagan festivals, associate with non-Christians, fasting, etc. In the Roman world monogamous marriage from puberty on was the norm. Many married men and women loved each other, but rich men who could afford consorts often felt no moral need to remain sexually loyal to their spouses. Christian converts came from all social backgrounds and classes. They sometimes felt the need to leave their spouses. Some might have had Christian marriages and pagan marriages becoming effectively polygamous and abhorrent to Christians, Jews, and Roman law. Paul advised some that remaining virgins was good and the most sure path to God. For others gave the advice we usually see from Christians today on marriage. But most of all he told his followers to keep their eye on the bigger picture of faith in Jesus.

    Long before their was a Christian explanation of marriage there was the human desire to marry. If people lose their faith the desire the marry will still persist.

    I didn't once make this about Xtianity. I made this about religion in general. I do have a degree in religious studies and undertstand numerous religions. I wasn't talking about Xtianity, western, or eastern religions. It was about religion as a whole. Your argument simply supplements mine. That religion as a whole, no matter the belief, is nothing but a self made opiate to understand a pointless life. Marriage does nothing but make a point to a lawless god. It doesn't matter the history, but the ritual of standing up and becoming one in front of a religious hierarchic is nothing but a religious symbol. You can have the benefits of marriage by removing the religion, but you lose the symbolism.

    This post was edited by Io Triumphe on 4/22/2012 at 9:52 PM

    Io Triumphe

  • GreenAllDay said...

    They all just wanna use me for my dick. It sucks.

    Drugs Delaney

  • Rich Gozinya said...

    Jesus. Spoken like a defeated man on a long cold streak. Don't let these city girls take your mojo, because you have the upper hand.

    I'm sick and tired of being treated like a piece of meat. I am a person with feelings and I deserve to be treated as such.

    Drugs Delaney

  • Diodotus said...

    you are so shockingly ignorant of Christianity and religion in general I'm tempted to simply gloss over this--but... marriage as a social and economic relationship existed long before monotheism. the first Christians were very divided about marriage. Some thought that they should follow Jesus' example and focus on leading lives of poverty and chastity. Others determined marriage to other Christians within the Jewish community was permissible. Followers of Paul in Greece and what is now Turkey were people with a cultural background very different from the mostly Jewish converts in Palestine and Rome. These people struggled greatly to reconcile with pagan societies. There were different dietary expectations, legal, and social arrangements which other Christians found abhorrent as former Jews. There were fights over whether Christians had to be circumcised, whether they could eat meat at pagan festivals, associate with non-Christians, fasting, etc. In the Roman world monogamous marriage from puberty on was the norm. Many married men and women loved each other, but rich men who could afford consorts often felt no moral need to remain sexually loyal to their spouses. Christian converts came from all social backgrounds and classes. They sometimes felt the need to leave their spouses. Some might have had Christian marriages and pagan marriages becoming effectively polygamous and abhorrent to Christians, Jews, and Roman law. Paul advised some that remaining virgins was good and the most sure path to God. For others gave the advice we usually see from Christians today on marriage. But most of all he told his followers to keep their eye on the bigger picture of faith in Jesus.

    Long before their was a Christian explanation of marriage there was the human desire to marry. If people lose their faith the desire the marry will still persist.

    uhoh

    Psychooo...

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  • If every marriage had a pre-nup....

    As a guy you are screwed if you get divorced, especially if you have kids.

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  • Diodotus said...

    Long before their was a Christian explanation of marriage there was the human desire to marry. If people lose their faith the desire the marry will still persist.

    I'd like to reexamine this line. I don't disagree with you. But, you are making a few huge faults. 1. No shit the world had marriage before Xtianity. No one said religion or life started in 30 CE. Obviously joint partnership has been part of human existence for the 250,000 years that humans have been walking the Earth. I have always said in this thread that people will continue to have a desire to be in a committed partnership, but the difference is that one can do that in modern times with out the religious symbolism. You can have the lawful partnership with out religion.

    Io Triumphe

  • Ron Jeremy said...

    If every marriage had a pre-nup....

    As a guy you are screwed if you get divorced, especially if you have kids.

    I told my gf that I will get a prenup. did not go so well.

    GreenAllDay

  • GreenAllDay said...

    I told my gf that I will get a prenup. did not go so well.

    I think a carefully crafted Pre-Nup can be mutually beneficial. She shouldn't get upset, but use this as an opportunity to argue for things that would protect and benefit her.

    Io Triumphe

  • GreenAllDay said...

    I told my gf that I will get a prenup. did not go so well.

    Any woman that bitched against a pre-nup doesn't have your best interests at heart.

    If she was in the mindset she loved you and wanted to spend the rest of her life with you, the pre-nup wouldn't matter. Why would it, all you are protecting is what is yours.

    I wouldn't marry her.

    This post was edited by Ron Jeremy on 4/22/2012 at 10:15 PM

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    Ron Jeremy

  • Kind of interesting that the only real difference the day before you got married vs the day after is that you've now got the law involved. Exact same relationship and you were probably already living together. Now it's just government sacntioned.

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    StylesGShmooth

  • My girlfriends younger cousin just got married to someone she's known for less than a year, they haven't even lived together yet. I'm fucked.

    ramblingloser

  • a bunch of whiny little...

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    FORKS DOWN!!!

    Black Dutch

  • I was 40+ when I got married (first and only). If you make it that long without getting married, suffice it to say the societal pressure pretty much goes away. Friends and family pretty much give up and just asssume that you are a closet homosexual, weird or something else that makes them feel OK with the idea.

    I have now been married eight years. Strangely, I found that I really like being married. If you get married for the right reasons It really is a great thing.

    Bridon Gueermo