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Will Detroit be a booming metropolis in 10 years, or dead?

  • As some of you may know, census numbers were released and Detroit's population dropped the most it has in 25 years. The state is still in turmoil, and Detroit is a huge cause of that. I found this pretty funny from this MSNBC article (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42220834/ns/us_news-life/):

    "City Council President Charles Pugh suggested that thousands of people "who are skeptical, distrustful of the government" avoided the count, such as convicted felons, illegal immigrants and residents who list suburban addresses to get lower car insurance."

    Oh, OK. So all the druggies and killers aren't submitting census information. That's just grand. This is bad news for what the city itself is trying to accomplish. (I'll wait for this to go to Wells.)

    This post was edited by Cosmo_Kramer on 3/23/2011 at 10:44 AM

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  • I'm sure the felons in New York and Chicago are much more cooperative. lol

    WBill19542

  • The D will be just like Scranton in "The Office". Wasn't 187 supposed to boost the D profile? Return the blight to Mother Nature in the form of green space until some Alien life form needs it in 2177.

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  • Detroit will probably continue to be somewhat similar to what it is today, with more of a yuppie crowd living downtown. Within 10-15 years, I think we'll start to see major investment returning to the city.

    This is assuming that Detroit residents don't elect another Kwame in the meantime.

    This post was edited by Burn The Boats on 3/23/2011 at 10:53 AM

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  • Neither. Ten years isn't a lot of time for either scenario to happen. You have to talk 50 years down the line.

    Drunk_dup

  • I love Detroit, but the writing is one the wall (as it has been for decades). While a smaller Detroit might in theory be better, those that are leaving are likely the people with means, thus leaving behind those that have nothing.

    MSU_Lew ●

  • DrunkGuy said...

    Neither. Ten years isn't a lot of time for either scenario to happen. You have to talk 50 years down the line.

    Eh, I disagree. It only took Detroit about 25-30 years to fully abandon its skyscrapers, and it took Pittsburgh about 20-25 years to turn things around. Once people like Matty Moroun begin to die off, we will begin to see some of the land parcels begin to open up for development.

    Burn The Boats

  • I think it's in a holding pattern, but will be slightly better in the near future. It will never be a booming metropolis, but I think if can get to a point of respectability again.

    Remind yourself. Nobody built like you, you design yourself.

    izzone89

  • I don't think it'll be either in 10 years, it's not enough time for either to happen. If I had to pick one though, it's more likely to be dead. The people are too resistant to change to for it to be a booming metropolis in 10 years. One of the big problems is that the people that want it to change don't actually live in the city, and the people that do actually live in the city don't want change (for the most part). They're going to keep electing people that won't make dramatic changes, and bitch and moan and threaten to recall the officials that try to make major changes.

    In 10 years, I expect it to be slightly better than it is today.

    This post was edited by msusnee on 3/23/2011 at 11:03 AM

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  • MSU_Lew said...

    I love Detroit, but the writing is one the wall (as it has been for decades). While a smaller Detroit might in theory be better, those that are leaving are likely the people with means, thus leaving behind those that have nothing.

    I would have agreed with you a few years ago, but I didn't realize how many people are obsessed with turning around Detroit. Much of Detroit's old money lives in Grosse Pointe or in Oakland County. These people still care deeply about Detroit, but want to see the correct governance in place before they'll feel comfortable investing again. These people don't have to leave the state to find jobs, so they don't really have a reason to leave their hometown.

    Burn The Boats

  • Burn The Boats said...

    Eh, I disagree. It only took Detroit about 25-30 years to fully abandon its skyscrapers, and it took Pittsburgh about 20-25 years to turn things around. Once people like Matty Moroun begin to die off, we will begin to see some of the land parcels begin to open up for development.

    The problem is that Detroit isn't doing anything close to what Pittsburgh did to re-invent themselves. Haven't even begun the process of luring companies. They are still trying to clean up the mess that was created by decades of poor leadership.

    Not a lot has changed in Detroit since 2001. The permanent casinos opened up. Whoo hoo. I don't see sweeping reform happening in the next decade. Detroit is still Detroit

    Drunk_dup

  • Population doesn't mean shit.

    Anyone who knows anything about this subject knows that Detroit is 10000 times better than it was 10 years ago when the population was close to 1 Million.

    ArtieLuvPancake

  • I think the strong unions have had a part in the decay, especially the auto unions. That compounded with Kwame and the complete lack of authority and intelligence by those in charge have destroyed a once-proud city.

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  • ArtieLuvPancake said...

    Population doesn't mean shit.

    Anyone who knows anything about this subject knows that Detroit is 10000 times better than it was 10 years ago when the population was close to 1 Million.

    If it doesn't mean anything then why is the Mayor and City Council so adamant that they are going to be challenging these numbers?

    Boomtown Sparty

  • DrunkGuy said...

    Not a lot has changed in Detroit since 2001.

    This.

    And nothing will be changed in 2021. Same ineffective "leadership." Same corruption and legal red tape to getting anything positive done in the city. Same ol' "don't you dare tell us what to do" populace.

    Sadly, there is no hope for Detroit. It chews up and spits out anyone with any kind of energy, vision, and forward thinking for the city.

    Always Smooth.

    Jim Shorts

  • Boomtown Sparty said...

    If it doesn't mean anything then why is the Mayor and City Council so adamant that they are going to be challenging these numbers?

    They want the federal cheese.

    Drunk_dup

  • DrunkGuy said...

    They want the federal cheese.

    And $$$ talks. So I'd say it matters quite a bit.

    Boomtown Sparty

  • its not going to die. It will have to take place in stages. Lets see if having the light rail down woodward help bring more people in to the city for day trips on game days and weekend. If it does that then you will see shops start filling up the vacant store fronts on woodward.

    If that happens then the apartments above the now full storefronts will on woodward will get rehabbed and then will get new yuppie tenants who will like living for cheap down town by the stadiums, theaters, bars and shops. Once you have the yuppies in those apartments, shops and grocery stores will start opening in the near by blocks...and then those apartments will be rehabbed...rinse repeat until the tax revenue gets to the point where the city can start improving its infrastructure which will benefit all residents.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by MSUDancinBear on 3/23/2011 at 11:21 AM

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  • Jim Shorts said...

    This.

    And nothing will be changed in 2021. Same ineffective "leadership." Same corruption and legal red tape to getting anything positive done in the city. Same ol' "don't you dare tell us what to do" populace.

    Sadly, there is no hope for Detroit. It chews up and spits out anyone with any kind of energy, vision, and forward thinking for the city.

    I'll just wait for wingfanjim to come on here and educate both you and drunkguy. Countdown to getting pw3d...

    Narwhal

  • oh for sure a booming metropolisuhoh

    kgbmsu

  • Narwhal said...

    I'll just wait for wingfanjim to come on here and educate both you and drunkguy. Countdown to getting pw3d...

    I'll crack a beer and wait for my ownage.

    Drunk_dup

  • It all hinges on the success or failure of the Robocop statue.

    stan_drewton

  • Boomtown Sparty said...

    If it doesn't mean anything then why is the Mayor and City Council so adamant that they are going to be challenging these numbers?

    I laughed when I heard Bing say, "These numbers are wrong! We have 750 thousand, not 725!" Big fuckin deal, dude.

    What is that, a Titleist? A hole in one...

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