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Heathens 87 said...
There is a concept called Vatican time. The Catholic Church has existed for centuries because it goes slowly. Sometimes that is a negative in adjusting to a contemporary issue and sometimes its a buffer against the fast-changing social tides. As I've grown older, I've also grown to appreciate that the Catholic Church takes its time, especially on issues that involve a changing social morality. I do believe we'll see the church change on a number of fronts, including contraception, homosexuality, the role of women, etc. That won't be with some sudden reversal though. Incremental change has been kept at bay by the last two papacies. Today, I have some hope a door has been opened....
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beal99 said...
How about a little analysis of where he stands on the issues:
Negatives:
-Opposes homosexuality and actively campaigned against an Argentine Governmental campaign to allow same-sex marriage.
-Opposes abortion and euthanasia
Positives:
-Has actively campaigned for class equality.
Conclusion: Church attempts to guise their tarnished image and retention of social dogma by selecting an historic "diversity candidate" (30% of Catholics are South American, so not exactly diverse in terms of proportional representation) who has displayed concern for the poor. +1 For having concern for the poor, but they don't get brownie points in my book for making it back to par - support for the poor should be a given.
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so humble he hid political prisoners at his villa so the Human Rights Commission wouldn't find them:
What one did not hear from any senior member of the Argentine hierarchy was any expression of regret for the church's collaboration and in these crimes. The extent of the church's complicity in the dark deeds was excellently set out by Horacio Verbitsky, one of Argentina's most notable journalists, in his book El Silencio (Silence). He recounts how the Argentine navy with the connivance of Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio, now the Jesuit archbishop of Buenos Aires, hid from a visiting delegation of the Inter-American Human Rights Commission the dictatorship's political prisoners. Bergoglio was hiding them in nothing less than his holiday home in an island called El Silencio in the River Plate. The most shaming thing for the church is that in such circumstances Bergoglio's name was allowed to go forward in the ballot to chose the successor of John Paul II. What scandal would not have ensued if the first pope ever to be elected from the continent of America had been revealed as an accessory to murder and false imprisonment
I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this.
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so humble he hid political prisoners at his villa so the Human Rights Commission wouldn't find them:
What one did not hear from any senior member of the Argentine hierarchy was any expression of regret for the church's collaboration and in these crimes. The extent of the church's complicity in the dark deeds was excellently set out by Horacio Verbitsky, one of Argentina's most notable journalists, in his book El Silencio (Silence). He recounts how the Argentine navy with the connivance of Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio, now the Jesuit archbishop of Buenos Aires, hid from a visiting delegation of the Inter-American Human Rights Commission the dictatorship's political prisoners. Bergoglio was hiding them in nothing less than his holiday home in an island called El Silencio in the River Plate. The most shaming thing for the church is that in such circumstances Bergoglio's name was allowed to go forward in the ballot to chose the successor of John Paul II. What scandal would not have ensued if the first pope ever to be elected from the continent of America had been revealed as an accessory to murder and false imprisonment
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so humble he hid political prisoners at his villa so the Human Rights Commission wouldn't find them:
What one did not hear from any senior member of the Argentine hierarchy was any expression of regret for the church's collaboration and in these crimes. The extent of the church's complicity in the dark deeds was excellently set out by Horacio Verbitsky, one of Argentina's most notable journalists, in his book El Silencio (Silence). He recounts how the Argentine navy with the connivance of Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio, now the Jesuit archbishop of Buenos Aires, hid from a visiting delegation of the Inter-American Human Rights Commission the dictatorship's political prisoners. Bergoglio was hiding them in nothing less than his holiday home in an island called El Silencio in the River Plate. The most shaming thing for the church is that in such circumstances Bergoglio's name was allowed to go forward in the ballot to chose the successor of John Paul II. What scandal would not have ensued if the first pope ever to be elected from the continent of America had been revealed as an accessory to murder and false imprisonment
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people crying.. over a pope...
The world reacts to new pope
http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/13/world/gallery/pope-world-reaction/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
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RubberbandMan said...
Since we have "ism"s for every minority but Catholics, it's the last acceptable prejudice in this country.
Maybe that's because on any day if you search Catholic Priest on Google News, 90% of the stories are about priests raping little boys or selling drugs for blowjobs
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Try it.
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From the Vatican to Buenos Aires, Catholics worldwide rejoiced when Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio became the new pope.
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I was hoping for a black pope. Then he and Obama would run/destroy the world.
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